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“Which subordinate has won nan astir convention championships without winning an world cap?” asks Nick Williamson. “Steve Bruce won 3 Premier League titles pinch Manchester United – surely location are different non-capped players pinch much title honours?”
There surely are a number of players that tin lucifer and hit Steve Bruce’s tally of 3 convention titles without earning an world cap.
“Bruce was highly decorated, but moreover he can’t clasp a candle to Real Madrid’s Antonio Ruiz,” answers Chai from Atlanta. “In 7 seasons pinch nan awesome squad of nan 1950s and 60s, he won 4 convention titles and 4 European Cups.”
“Bayern Munich’s German midfielder, Bernd Dürnberger, besides won 4 European cups to spell pinch his 5 Bundesliga titles,” continues Chai. “Fellow German Stefan Klos did 1 amended by winning a full of six top-flight titles, including nan Bundesliga doubly pinch Borussia Dortmund and Scottish Premier League pinch Rangers 4 times.”
“Plenty of South Americans triumph silverware extracurricular Europe but ne'er get selected for their nationalist teams. Brazilian Muriqui won nan Chinese Super League 4 times pinch Guangzhou Evergrande. His compatriot and erstwhile Guangzhou teammate, Cléo, won nan convention pinch them doubly and nan Serbian SuperLiga pinch Partizan. Darío Conca of Argentina went a measurement further and won 5 top-flight titles pinch a sole U20 headdress for his efforts; he won successful China (with Guangzhou Evergrande), Chile (Universidad Católica), and Brazil (Fluminense). Brazilian midfielder Danilo Gabriel de Andrade won nan Brazilian Serie A 4 times pinch São Paulo (once) and Corinthians (thrice) on pinch 3 J. League titles successful Japan pinch Kashima Antlers. That’s a full of 7 top-flight convention titles without a azygous world cap.”
James Dixon nominates erstwhile Milan keeper Sebastiano Rossi. “Five Scudettos and zero world caps, contempt his nine manager, Arrigo Sacchi, going onto coach nan nationalist team.” Dan Almond goes 1 better, delving heavy into nan history books. “James Richardson Spensley won six Serie A titles pinch Genoa betwixt 1898 and 1904 but ne'er represented his autochthonal England.”
“Tommy Callaghan won six medals during Celtic’s first 9 successful a statement but only made 2 appearances for nan Scottish League XI,” writes Michael Haughey, pinch 60s Celtic teammate John Fallon besides securing six convention titles without an world cap. Graeme Whitton, though, has recovered nan victor from Scotland: “I’d beryllium amazed if this honour doesn’t spell to Scottish midfielder John Brown who won 8 convention titles pinch Rangers but ne'er sewage a Scotland cap.”
Matt Liddle chips successful pinch a beauty: “My mind went consecutive to back-up goalies and Sven Ulreich has conscionable won his ninth Bundesliga title pinch Bayern Munich, mostly from nan bench.” Bayern are really claiming 10 Bundesliga titles for Ulreich successful this article, but nan keeper played connected indebtedness astatine Hamburg successful 2020-21.
Joe Stynes adds an fantabulous shout: “Sean Gannon has zero world caps and 11 League of Ireland Premier Division medals: Shamrock Rovers (four: 2011, 2021, 2022, 2023), St Patrick’s Athletic (one: 2013), Dundalk (five: 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019), Shelbourne (one: 2024).”
But our victor comes from Mykola Kozlenko, who is presumably dancing successful nan streets of Total Network Solutions astatine nan news. “I americium nominating Chris Marriott who won 12 Welsh titles pinch The New Saints,” he writes. Twelve titles successful 15 years astatine nan club! Congratulations to Mykola and congrats to Chris.
A mates of honourable mentions: Father and boy duo Fabio and Carlo Cudicini some won convention titles without gaining world caps, pinch Milan (1967–68) and Chelsea (2004–05, 2005–06) respectively. Andrés Palop is simply a notable inclusion for not only winning a convention title pinch Valencia but winning a awesome world trophy (with Spain astatine Euro 2008) without ever making an world appearance.
Here are a fewer much nan Knowledge found:
Three convention titles, nary caps
Ángel Atienza – while playing for Real Madrid (1954-59)
David Fairclough – Liverpool (1975-83)
Bernd Wehmeyer – Hamburg (1978-86)
Scott Nisbet – Rangers (1985-93)
Lorenzo Amoruso – Rangers (1997-2003)
Arsenio Erico – 2 titles pinch Independiente (1933-46), 1 pinch Nacional (1942). The Paraguayan remains nan 2nd all-time highest goalscorer successful nan Argentinian apical formation pinch 293 goals and was erstwhile offered a expansive sum to correspond Argentina astatine nan 1938 World Cup but declined, loyal to his state of birth.
Nicola Amoruso – Juventus (1996-2002)
Oleguer – 2 pinch Barcelona (2003-08), 1 pinch Ajax (2008-11). Perhaps hampered by his pro-Catalan views, nan right-back and economics awesome was regularly booed by opposing fans successful Spain and turned down a call-up for Spain successful 2005.
Stevan Stojanovic – Red Star Belgrade (1982-91). Best known for captaining Red Star to European Cup glory successful 1991, nan keeper besides won nan Yugoslavian title 3 times.
Scott Sinclair – Celtic (2016-20)
Four titles
José Neto – Benfica (1958-66). The only personnel of Benfica’s starting XI that won nan 1961 European Cup last who was not capped astatine immoderate shape by Portugal.
Jimmy Case – Liverpool (1973-81)
Fred Grim – Ajax (1994-2002)
Sergio Brio – Juventus (1974-90). The Italian was uncapped but is successful Juve’s Hall of Fame and is 1 of only six players successful European shot history – pinch Antonio Cabrini, Gaetano Scirea, Stefano Tacconi, Danny Blind and Arnold Mühren – to person won each world nine competitions.
Five titles
With acknowledgment to Dirk Maas for these last suggestions:
Simone Padoin – Juventus (2012-16)
Filippo Galli – Milan (1982-96)
Georges Polny – Saint-Étienne (1960-72)
Rémy Vercoutre – Lyon (2002-14)
Gert Bals – 1 pinch PSV (1961-65) and 4 pinch Ajax (1965-70)
Guy Marchoul – Anderlecht (1985-95)
Craig Johnston – Liverpool (1981-88)
Six titles
Humberto Fernandes – Benfica (1958-70)
Fernando Bandeirinha – Porto (1981-96)
Ismaily – Shakhtar Donetsk (2013-22)
André Ramalho – 5 pinch RB Salzburg (2013-15 and 2018-21), 1 pinch PSV (2021-24)
Seven titles
Mikhail Kerzhakov – Zenit Saint Petersburg (2005-10 and 2015-2026)
Eight titles
Manolín Bueno – Real Madrid (1959-71)
Greatest region betwixt 2 derby teams (part two)
Following connected from last week’s lead question, we person had rather a fewer caller answers, including a caller winner …
“The Dockyard Derby, betwixt Plymouth Argyle and Portsmouth is simply a region of 172 miles betwixt nan 2 teams,” emails Robert Williams.
“I can’t rather apical 386 miles but I attended nan North Norway Derby (or Arctic Circle Derby) betwixt Tromsø and Bodø/Glimt successful 2015, astir 335 miles by car, according to Google,” suggests Tom Whelan.
“There’s a ‘derby’ successful Mexico betwixt 2 clubs that are (now) complete 300 miles isolated by nan standards group retired successful nan article,” offers SF Devereux. “Club América and Necaxa utilized to stock nan Azteca and title a heated Mexico City derby, but Necaxa fell connected difficult times financially and nan owners relocated them to nan municipality of Aguascalientes, 400-plus km distant arsenic nan crow flies and much than 500km by nan shortest disposable roadworthy route. Despite each of this happening successful 2003, their fixtures are still referred to arsenic derbies by Mexican fans and media.”
“Zorya Luhansk are now playing successful Zaporizhzhia while Shakhtar, their rivals from Donetsk, are 628 miles distant successful Lviv,” writes David Shonfield. “This whitethorn not beryllium nan astir accepted Donbas Derby but it’s nan only 1 that has survived.”
“A lucifer took spot successful 2011 betwixt McMurdo Station and Rothera Research Station successful Antarctica, which I’m judge was fiercely contested,” reveals Jed Saunders. “It ended 1-0 to McMurdo. The region was 2,141 miles by Great Circle. By roadworthy I couldn’t say.”
“Surely if you’re counting Auckland and Wellington you person to past count nan Canadian teams successful MLS,” argues Ross successful Port Seton. “Columbus Crew and Toronto FC person a derby called nan Trillium Cup and they are 428 miles apart. Montreal and Vancouver person a derby rivalry that predates MLS and they are 2,913 miles apart.”
“Perth Glory and Wellington Phoenix person for galore years played successful a lucifer known arsenic nan ‘Distance Derby,’ owed to their being incredibly distant from each different and from each different A-League squad (before Auckland FC joined),” wins Tess Sherlock. “It has derby successful nan sanction and is based connected surface science truthful it decidedly qualifies. As nan crow flies, nan teams are 3,270 miles apart.”
Knowledge archive
“I person precocious been enjoying watching nan DVD of John Byrne’s 1980s BBC Scotland tv bid Tutti Frutti,” wrote Stuart Webber successful 2010. “The opening scenes characteristic nan funeral of Jazzer McGloan, lead vocalist of The Majestics. Adjacent to nan cemetery, a (presumably Scottish) shot crushed tin intelligibly beryllium seen. Does anyone cognize which crushed this mightiness be?”
Despite nan proximity of St Mirren Park and Petershill Park to cemeteries, nan crushed pictured successful those opening scenes is really Celtic Park. “There’s a cemetery conscionable down Celtic Park (the logic nan caller northbound guidelines has pillars, arsenic I recall, was nan tile supports could not overhang nan cemetery),” writes Pete Morrison. “And nan nickname ‘Paradise’ originates successful a journalist comparing nan move from nan original tract to a caller 1 being for illustration ‘moving from nan graveyard to paradise’.”
Can you help?
“Celtic’s melodramatic final-day triumph complete Hearts intends that Wilfried Nancy played his portion successful a title-winning run contempt a grounds of 2 wins from six convention games,” writes Niall McVeigh. “Excluding caretakers, who are nan worst-performing managers to thief a squad triumph nan championship?”
“Recently, Arsenal had a cardinal crippled astatine location to already relegated Burnley,” notes Daz Pearce. “Had Burnley recorded a astonishment triumph they would person overturned a matchday shortage of 58 points, truthful somewhat much than a astonishment then. What’s nan highest specified shortage ‘overturned’ by a team, presumably successful a lucifer very precocious successful nan season?”
“In 2009, 1990s Wigan leader David Lowe was caretaker for Derby County for 1 game,” notes Yves Corlet. “In 2025, 16 years later, he was caretaker for Blackburn Rovers for 3 games. Has anyone had a longer spread betwixt managerial stints?”
“Since garment sponsorship began successful nan 1970s, which nine has had nan fewest sponsor logos adorn their shirts?” asks Bob Krag. “My conjecture is Arsenal, who person only had 4 (JVC, Dreamcast/Sega, O2 and Emirates). Even Barcelona, who eschewed garment sponsorship for galore years, person had more.”
“When was nan past clip a goalkeeper wore nan aforesaid shorts and socks arsenic his outfield teammates successful a Premier League game?” queries Louis Ostrowski.
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