Previewing Ohio State vs. Miami in the 2025 Cotton Bowl: Buckeye Talk podcast

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ARLINGTON, Texas -- On this Tuesday section ofBuckeye Talk, Stephen Means, Stefan Krajisnik and Andrew Gillis break down Ohio State’s Cotton Bowl crippled against Miami, and make their picks.

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Andrew Gillis (00:01.324)

Media time game.

Stephen Means (00:02.827)

We’re not talking astir media death.

Andrew Gillis (00:04.77)

mean, there’s worldly astir nan crippled that we learned from Edyta.

Stephen Means (00:08.395)

What did we study from nan crippled from media time astir the

Stephen Means (00:01.566)

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Stephen Means (00:05.404)

Welcome backmost to Buck I Talk. I americium Stephen Means. That’s nan font. Christenic and that is Andrew Gillis. And this is your charismatic crippled preview pod, though this is nan playoffs. So everything has been a crippled preview pod up to this point. Last week we put retired 2 big, large pods for illustration an hr and 45 minutes each breaking down some sides of nan ball. Offense versus defense was connected Thursday connected Christmas Day arsenic a awesome gift to you. And past nan time aft Christmas we did defense versus nan offense, Ohio State versus Miami successful nan Cotton Bowl.

on Wednesday nighttime arsenic what will beryllium nan last assemblage shot crippled successful 2025. It’s crazy. And we’ve been present twice. Who’d thought?

Stefan Krajisnik (00:47.339)

What a twelvemonth was for Ohio State specifically too. Like 2025 starts pinch nan hit down of Oregon successful nan Rose Bowl and you get nan melodramatic scoop successful Sawyer successful nan Cotton Bowl. You get, you know, 3rd and Jeremiah. And past you get an disconnected play of Chip Kelly leaving and Jim Knowles leaving and, uh, oh, by nan way, a title ceremony earlier immoderate of that happened, I guess. Um, and past an undefeated regular season.

And now it ends with, it ends pinch a large 10 title crippled nonaccomplishment to for illustration nan astir shocking Cinderella communicative successful assemblage shot history. And now it’s nan fabric vessel backmost successful Dallas for matchup pinch Miami, nan schoolhouse from nan metropolis that gave you nan 2nd champion enlistee successful programme history.

Andrew Gillis (01:17.474)

You guys are-

Andrew Gillis (01:40.782)

Like it’s, I just, deliberation astir it and it’s for illustration what you were conscionable saying location astir 2025. You guys ever watched like, for illustration Dick Clark’s rockin’ New Year’s Eve aliases immoderate and they do nan like, let’s retrieve from what happened this twelvemonth and they spell done nan awesome storylines and they do nan successful memoriam worldly and you’re like.

I forgot that happened successful February. Completely froze for illustration Oh, yeah, Jim Kelly near for illustration 11 months ago. Like, oh, yeah, Matt Patricia sewage hired for illustration 10 months ago. It’s conscionable it’s like, wow, you really deliberation like, we were laughing, Stefan and I because they had each OSU Miami worldly up astatine nan Cotton Bowl. And past location was for illustration 1 small broadside jumbotron for illustration correct underneath for illustration nan the precocious platform wherever it was for illustration Ohio State versus Texas and I was like, hey, and in installments to them.

least Ohio State did play Texas this twelvemonth astatine nan Cotton Bowl. It was successful January. it’s just, I don’t know, it’s chaotic to deliberation astir what’s happened successful nan past 365 days.

Stephen Means (02:41.438)

Ohio State has had 4 different group telephone nan crippled successful nan past 365 days.

They’ve mislaid two. They’ve they’ve managed to lose. In nan past 24 months. That if we return this backmost to nan first clip Ohio State played successful nan Cotton Bowl pinch Ryan Day arsenic nan caput coach. This is going to beryllium nan 3rd different. No, origin Brian Hartley is not calling plays, nevermind. So no, it’s conscionable 4 different successful nan past 365 days. We went from Jim Knowles and Chip Kelly to Matt Patricia.

And Brian Heartline to Matt Patricia and Ryan Day. It’s crazy. It’s excessively overmuch company. Let’s do this because I don’t want to spell super, ace agelong because we’ve been going super, ace agelong for past week and a half connected this stuff. So we’re to do a 30 infinitesimal agelong type of what our video of crippled clip decisions is. And that’s conscionable for illustration talk astir a fewer things that we think. Matter astir to Ohio State’s chances of winning.

this shot crippled that are successful Ohio State’s control. And they’re conscionable proceeding this question. I could measurement connected asked maine earlier I property record. We would talk astir thing conscionable to vibe retired is like, okay, we’ll spot what happens. I really did person a plan. I conscionable didn’t want you to scheme retired your answers. I wanted you to springiness them to maine uncut and raw. So measurement connected nan astir important point that matters to Ohio State aliases December 31st successful position of winning this crippled for you.

Stefan Krajisnik (04:12.469)

I’ll necktie backmost to different video that we did complete connected our YouTube wherever we talked aft nan Cotton Bowl media day. And 1 point that was really intriguing to maine is conscionable each nan speech astir Brian Harline and Steven, I cognize you were portion of nan group that talked to Brian Harline and heard what he had to say. And I just, deliberation nan astir fascinating portion of this crippled is seeing really does Ohio State respond from nan measurement its discourtesy performed against Indiana.

And it feels successful a batch little affectional way, akin to what will Ohio State’s discourtesy look for illustration against Tennessee past year, wherever we were saying that crippled scheme against Michigan was conscionable not playing to nan strengths of Ohio State’s roster and its offense. And I deliberation erstwhile you look astatine this, it feels nan aforesaid way, but alternatively of moving it into nan teeth of Michigan’s defense, it was playing each these tight ends successful nan reddish area against Indiana’s offense. And I deliberation nan astir telling motion of

How heavy Ohio State goes into this postseason and what it tin execute and its quest for you back-to-back titles for nan first clip successful programme history It each relies connected what this discourtesy looks for illustration and if it if it taps into what it does champion and I conscionable deliberation We cognize Brian Harline’s now calling plays He’s staying done nan playoff his scheme is to beryllium benignant of nan receivers coach and beryllium portion of this group effort of calling plays arsenic Ryan Day calls it but

He didn’t for illustration being successful nan property box. Now he’s gonna beryllium down connected nan field, which that’s benignant of wherever he belongs, right? He’s a erstwhile player. He likes he’s ever you cognize been down connected nan section and things of that quality for illustration that’s benignant of wherever he belongs that’s wherever he’s astatine his champion and it’s conscionable I deliberation astir nan operation of each these things of Ryan Day calling plays Brian Harlan down connected nan section Brian Harlan nan receivers coach down connected nan section alternatively of nan property container and Three weeks 3 and a half weeks, immoderate it is to hole and those 3 signs each constituent to

These receivers are gonna do what they do best. I’ll adhd different slug constituent to that Let’s opportunity let’s opportunity this to Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate are patient 100 % afloat spell fresh to stone You springiness maine those 4 things everything points to this Ohio State discourtesy being what we cognize this Ohio State discourtesy tin beryllium successful nan Ryan Day era and If they do that and it’s paired pinch this all-world defense. It’s really difficult to envision anybody including Miami

Stefan Krajisnik (06:38.091)

beating them. And I deliberation that’s nan astir intriguing portion of this of conscionable like, I don’t know, possibly it intends thing that Brian Harline is down connected nan field. Maybe it intends thing erstwhile Jeremiah Smith could locomotion up to Brian Harline and beryllium like, hey, spell show nan caput coach to freaking propulsion nan shot to me. And past Brian Harline tin locomotion up to caput coach and beryllium like, propulsion nan freaking shot to Jeremiah, propulsion nan freaking shot to Cardinal Tate. So I deliberation location is benignant of conscionable for illustration each of these signs constituent to Ohio State’s discourtesy being Ohio State’s offense.

And if it looks thing for illustration nan Indiana game, past I’m conscionable gonna beryllium like, whatever, this squad is not gonna triumph a nationalist title because they’re conscionable gonna get successful their ain way. But I just, everything tells maine it’s not gonna beryllium that. And if you’re an Ohio State fan, I deliberation that’s breathtaking to hear. I just, I don’t deliberation Brian Harline being down connected nan section is nothing.

Stephen Means (07:23.547)

I emotion that arsenic journalists, we conscionable play nan crippled pinch something, thing aliases everything pinch everything we do.

Gillis astir important thing. So Ohio State’s triumph connected Wednesday.

Andrew Gillis (07:39.886)

finishing successful nan reddish zone. The reddish area worldly was evidently a monolithic rumor against Indiana successful nan Big Ten Championship game. For those that person been listening and reference our texts, cognize that it has been an rumor benignant of for a mates of weeks and a mates of months. You gotta finish. You gotta score. You gotta turn.

long drives into 7 because I pointed this out. I mean, we’ve done truthful galore pods and truthful galore talking points successful nan past week. I don’t rather retrieve which one. However, we could talk astir Ohio State, for illustration not getting it connected Fort Down pinch nan Julian sneak. And past we could talk astir Jayden Fielding missing nan section goal. But I don’t know, you make those for illustration you footwear it some times and you make it. OK, you triumph nan game. You triumph that game.

But that’s six points. Think astir really agelong those drives were, right? One of them was for illustration 80 thing yards. I don’t person nan thrust charts successful beforehand of me, 1 of them was a ace agelong drive. You cannot do that against a squad for illustration Miami. Miami, they’ve sewage a awesome tackle tandem. They’ve sewage a bully violative line. We cognize what they’re gonna effort to do. It’s nary secret. They’re not gonna inquire Carson Beck to propulsion it 50 times.

That’s not their look to victory. Their look to triumph is Mark Fletcher having a awesome crippled and their violative statement controlling nan statement of scrimmage and putting up capable points to wherever nan defense makes a fewer plays and you triumph nan game. That’s really Miami wins shot games. So you can’t person this business unfold wherever we look astatine each different successful nan property container and go, Ohio State’s dominating this crippled and it’s 3 to nothing. Ohio State’s dominating this crippled and it’s six to nothing.

You know, it’s, 9 to seven. Like that I deliberation is bad for Ohio authorities because you’re conscionable benignant of letting nan squad that you are amended than bent astir and you can’t do that. So, that, that you sewage to hole it, whether that’s getting free of nan 14 unit worldly that you conscionable many times relied on. Maybe, possibly that’s nan answer. I don’t know. possibly that’s thing that they do. Maybe it’s get your champion players successful nan field.

Andrew Gillis (10:07.2)

Surprising. Wouldn’t that beryllium a daze if that would work? But yeah, I conscionable I look astatine nan reddish area and see. See, I conscionable I person this imagination and scenarios successful my caput of for illustration really this crippled could play out. And if you’re Miami trading 7 for three, you will return each azygous clip against this team, because nan measurement that Ohio State plays, nan measurement that you want to play.

holding them to 3 points is simply a complete and full triumph for nan Hurricanes defense.

Stefan Krajisnik (10:38.187)

I deliberation wherever you’re taking nan incorrect attack here, it mightiness not beryllium holding them to 3 alternatively of seven. It mightiness beryllium zero alternatively of 7 because if this squad isn’t excessively confident, it’s kicker. It mightiness beryllium going for it. It mightiness beryllium a turnover connected that.

Andrew Gillis (10:45.474)

That’s a fair.

Stephen Means (10:50.887)

They should spell for it.

Andrew Gillis (10:50.956)

Yeah, and that’s, yeah.

Stephen Means (10:53.789)

I don’t attraction if that sounds her ball. Like I don’t deliberation they should ever. I listen. This is not. Don’t onslaught you. Jayden Fielding. Please don’t onslaught Jayden Fielding nan human. OK, you tin beryllium upset pinch Jayden Fielding nan kicker. Do not onslaught Jayden Fielding nan quality being. I do not deliberation astatine this constituent they request to spot Jayden Fielding to make these hits successful precocious leverage situations. I don’t care.

Andrew Gillis (10:54.466)

Yeah, it depends.

Stephen Means (11:21.661)

If Ohio State gets up 21 to 7 successful this crippled and past they person him footwear a section extremity and now it’s 24 to 7 aliases it’s going to beryllium 21 to seven. Like that’s not precocious leverage. High leverage to maine is it’s 9 to six. No, that’s not intolerable because I didn’t it’s 7 to 3 going successful nan halftime and there’s 3 seconds connected nan timepiece and you’re astatine nan 35 gait statement and nan options are either spell up 14 to 3 aliases 10 to three.

Or guidelines 7 to three. Try to spell up 14 to three. I conscionable I’m off. I’m disconnected nan kicker speech until shown otherwise. And I understand that kicking is portion of nan crippled and we’re coming disconnected pinch a first information wherever a bunch of dudes were missing kicks, but those were outdoors and it was windy. It is indoors. It will not beryllium windy. I do not spot Ohio State’s expertise to make section goals successful my precocious leverage situations, truthful I do not spot it astatine all. Here’s mine.

Do you guys consciousness for illustration Ohio State was connected nan onslaught erstwhile they played Indiana? Offensively.

Stefan Krajisnik (12:29.035)

It’s reliable because they had large plays and they sewage down nan section truthful I felt for illustration they were until they sewage into nan reddish zone

Stephen Means (12:37.382)

Okay.

That’s astir apt a really bully measurement to put that. They were until they weren’t.

Stephen Means (12:47.835)

Which is why excavation is for illustration a operation of some of you guys for illustration don’t fto your ft disconnected nan gas. For nan liking of a situation, I deliberation they person talked truthful overmuch astir really because there’s little possession situations matter much than ever and I while I deliberation that’s true. Sometimes.

I consciousness for illustration this squad gets excessively caught up successful that. That it becomes a unit cooker erstwhile it doesn’t request to be. It’s like, ohio no, it’s 3rd and 4 from nan 16. What do do? I don’t cognize what you do 3rd and 4 from nan 26. Do that again. I cognize what you do from 3rd and 4 from nan 20. We threw it nan JJ car. No, OK, we’ll do that point again. Throw successful nan JJ car. No, ohio no, it’s 2nd and 9 from nan 19. What do we do? I cognize what you do from 2nd and 9 of nan 29.

you gave it to Bo Jackson and he made personification miss and sewage disconnected nan field. We’ll do that again. The answer. I don’t deliberation nan answers person to alteration conscionable because you get successful nan reddish zone. I deliberation you request to consistently enactment connected nan attack, immoderate your attack is betwixt nan 20s, usage that erstwhile you get extracurricular of them and there’s an extremity zone. That’s your adjacent destination. just. People don’t emotion Ryan Day against Georgia.

because they put up a bunch of numbers. They put up. They emotion Ryan Day successful that crippled because it felt for illustration location was a mentality established and they approached nan crippled that way. And it’s nan aforesaid measurement they approached nan Clemson Sugar Bowl. They approached it that measurement nan twelvemonth earlier that of ironically enough, they conscionable couldn’t decorativeness successful nan reddish zone. And past besides nan refs benignant of sewage successful measurement there. Even past year, for illustration it felt for illustration they were connected nan onslaught for 4 consecutive games. And I deliberation that’s what this is going to travel down to. There is nary portion of maine who thinks.

that Miami has a chance of scoring much than 10 points connected Ohio State’s defense. Is that adjacent to say?

Andrew Gillis (14:40.41)

most, yeah. Depends connected the

Stefan Krajisnik (14:40.765)

Yes. I mean. We’ve seen bully offenses played. We’ve seen bully offenses play against Ohio State. Nobody scored 17 aliases much than 17.

Stephen Means (14:51.567)

Indiana is averaging for illustration 45 points a crippled and he scored 13 points So I don’t deliberation it’s I don’t deliberation it’s crazy to opportunity for illustration I conscionable don’t spot a world wherever Miami scores much than 10 points connected Ohio State But what I don’t want that to move into is each Ohio State has to do a people 11 points and they triumph nan shot crippled Urban Meyer said this connected their podcast wherever he was for illustration if Ohio State root to touchdowns are gonna triumph nan shot crippled While I deliberation that’s true. I don’t deliberation they request to attack it. Like each we request to do is people 14 points

I deliberation they request to conscionable spell retired location and score. And if that intends you get 14 and you triumph nan crippled 14 to 10, fine. If that intends you triumph nan crippled 44 to 10, that’s okay too. You don’t person to do what the, feels for illustration erstwhile they go, immoderate it takes to triumph becomes, we’re only gonna do nan bare minimum that’s basal to triumph a shot game.

Just do what you do offensively. I sewage some. mean, I’m not saying I’m to people 51 retired Miami, but location is an constituent here. If someone’s going to people 50 points successful this game, it’s much apt going to beryllium Ohio State than it is Miami. And I don’t deliberation either pinch nan score.

Stefan Krajisnik (16:00.811)

Well, deliberation 1 point that’s important. I deliberation 1 point that’s important excessively is like. You talk astir if you score, you cognize 2 touchdowns for illustration like municipality said there, that’s capable to triumph nan crippled yet. Sure, that’s fine. OK, let’s opportunity it’s 14 to 9 Ohio State people 2 touchdown. They’ve held Miami to little than nine. It’s different though erstwhile your defense has to spell backmost retired connected nan field. It’s for illustration you person to get a extremity versus it’s 28 to 9 and it’s good if you springiness up a score. It’s not nan extremity of nan world for illustration that’s.

Stephen Means (16:24.38)

Yeah.

Stefan Krajisnik (16:29.547)

The defense played stellar against Indiana and past it’s like, each right, it’s 10 to, what was nan score? 10 to six? It’s 10 to six, your defense is refined. Okay, Indiana knows it’s each aliases nothing. All it takes is simply a mates of large plays. So yeah, you’re right. Like scoring 14 points mightiness beryllium capable for Ohio State. I’m willing to spot what our predictions are. Cause I wonderment if it was Ohio State 14 and past immoderate you person Miami scoring, we mightiness each still person Ohio State winning nan game.

Stephen Means (16:37.65)

Yeah.

Stefan Krajisnik (16:56.681)

But don’t put your defense successful nan spot playing defense. For this Ohio State squad looks looks easy astatine times, but don’t put yourself successful this spot wherever your backs against nan wall and you person to get a stop. If you are nan amended team. Jump retired successful front. Make it easier for yourself.

Stephen Means (17:08.411)

That’s what it Yeah. Yeah. There’s an constituent to for illustration Miami has to people against a defense. It’s intolerable to people against versus Miami has to people against an intolerable defense, but besides nan defense has to get a extremity aliases you’re going to suffer a shot game. And that’s nan point astir elite defenses is they opportunity defense wins championships, but for illustration that’s for illustration bully discourtesy thumps bully defense.

Any time of nan week, right? Like nan Angelo Pons, I don’t deliberation had a bad time connected Jeremiah’s is JJ JJ. So it doesn’t matter really bully nan sum you are. If JJ is amended than you, he’s amended than you. You person to fto your defense consistently beryllium nan group putting nan unit connected Miami and not because if you make that equal, past you springiness Miami a chance because that’s what happened. Miami conscionable hung astir nan full crippled against Texas A And past erstwhile nan play was going to beryllium made, do we deliberation Texas A defense was bad aliases just

Miami hung astir agelong capable defensively for an violative subordinate to make a play. And that’s what you can’t do. The game, I conscionable don’t deliberation this doesn’t person to beryllium adjacent connected Wednesday. And sometimes this coaching unit talks astir games arsenic if nan crippled has to beryllium close.

That’s each I got. That’s what I got. There.

Stefan Krajisnik (18:22.091)

It takes maine backmost to week 1 erstwhile Ryan Day benignant of had talked astir really nan imagination he had for months astir really that crippled against Texas was going to go. It’s like, yeah, that worked. And Julian Sains Young. But now I look backmost and I’m like, you could person hit them for illustration 35 to 7.

Stephen Means (18:38.203)

Well, why is that? Who said it was a crime to hit personification 35-7?

Andrew Gillis (18:45.374)

And nan for illustration nan different point that you get yourself into problem with, you know, erstwhile you person that type of crippled plan, correct is, okay, let’s, you know, we’re going to crippled scheme to people 20, because they’re not going to people 20 connected us. No, nary squad has scored much than 16 connected Ohio State this season. And it was Illinois and they had 1 of those touchdowns late. And they really had to benignant of grind and claw for that. So it’s like, well, if you crippled scheme for 20, it’s like, each right, that’s fine.

I don’t cognize nan past 2 weeks, nan past 2 aliases past 2 games you’ve played, you’ve fixed them nan different team, nan turnover connected your ain end, right? You know, it’s like, you know, Miami mightiness not do overmuch and Miami has, you know, 10 points, but I don’t know. Akeem Mezador makes a play coming disconnected nan edge. get a portion sack and each of abrupt you’re astatine nan 15 gait statement and it’s like, Whoa, that’s that’s trouble. And past each of abrupt you have.

game scheme for a crippled that doesn’t exist. Right? Like you person crippled scheme for a crippled that is not a portion of that reality where, you know, it’s like, Hey, we thought we only needed to people 20 to win. Okay. Well, that’s fine. But I don’t know. Like, there’s a logic you person renters insurance. Like, there’s a logic why erstwhile when you’re going somewhere, erstwhile you, you know, you’re going to a, you’re going to edifice astatine 7pm, there’s a logic why you effort to get location astatine 650 because you’re like, Hey,

Let maine build successful immoderate clip conscionable successful lawsuit thing happens because I don’t cognize you fumble a punt. You propulsion a prime arsenic Julian has done successful his ain end. You springiness up a portion size. Something goes wrong. Something goes haywire. Then you’re fine. And it feels for illustration like we’re each saying nan aforesaid point here, but you sewage to build successful much of a cushion. I deliberation we’re each benignant of saying Ohio State has nan opportunity to build successful that cushion.

rather than conscionable say, you know, let’s do capable to win. We’ve each we each cognize what it’s for illustration to, you know, to spell done assemblage aliases whatever. And you’re like, I only request a 70 connected this insubstantial to, know, to get an A successful nan class. So don’t sprout for a 71. Just sprout for a sprout for an A and beryllium done pinch it. Right? Like, don’t don’t sprout for a 72 to opportunity like, I did it. Just do it. Just termination it and you’ll beryllium fine. So yeah, I deliberation that is nan point that I’m for illustration that I’m besides funny is like

Andrew Gillis (21:12.211)

We haven’t seen it yet, but what does this discourtesy look for illustration successful position of keeping their pedal to nan metal?

Stephen Means (21:19.228)

I person 1 much mobility and past we’re to beryllium done. promise. Is location a large image conversation?

Stefan Krajisnik (21:24.307)

It’s okay. I person 1 much constituent aft your question.

Stephen Means (21:27.886)

Okay, is location a large image speech pinch Miami and Ohio State?

Stefan Krajisnik (21:33.899)

think Ryan Day thinks location is.

Andrew Gillis (21:34.519)

In what way?

Stephen Means (21:38.084)

What does Ryan Day deliberation it is, if you had to construe it?

Stefan Krajisnik (21:41.228)

He was asked astir Miami versus Ohio State benignant of nan recruiting value and for illustration I don’t cognize Ohio State’s had a batch of occurrence recruiting South Florida correct for illustration Jeremiah’s evidently nan astir evident example, but for illustration Brandon is isn’t cipher Kenyatta Jackson isn’t cipher aliases I for illustration they’ve had occurrence and Jeremiah Smith benignant of said it excessively wherever he talked astir for illustration I don’t cognize if Miami was winning a batch of shot games

compared to like, you know, really Ohio State’s winning shot games, possibly he would person considered going location more. And, you know, these, these are each hypotheticals, but for illustration Ryan Day benignant of talked astir like, yeah, for illustration winning this crippled matters because there’s kids successful South Florida watching this crippled and they spot Ohio State beating nan squad that they grew up cheering for. This is, this is maine benignant of paraphrasing, but it’s not precisely what Ryan Day said, but like, I deliberation there, location is for illustration there, there’s a taste point here. There’s a, an X is an O thing. There’s a.

know assemblage shot history point for illustration for 2 programs that are not rivals successful immoderate consciousness of nan connection correct for illustration Ohio State Michigan is astir arsenic acold from Ohio State Miami arsenic as you could deliberation successful position of connected nan section but for illustration yet location is this rivalry location is benignant of thing betwixt Ohio State and Miami and I deliberation I deliberation location is simply a bigger image communicative to this matchup.

Andrew Gillis (23:00.588)

Yeah, I truthful I talked to a mates of different Miami players benignant of for illustration connected on media time and I was nan communicative is up connected nan tract now. You tin spell cheque it retired astatine Cleveland. But I was fundamentally conscionable asking them for illustration what nan propulsion is for kids to enactment home, why kids enactment home, why definite kids time off and they don’t really attraction astir nan South Florida thing. And nan point that they each kept coming backmost to was they were they were talking about

Miami benignant of being historic. And location was a bunch of different topics. And I thought it was really absorbing that beautiful overmuch each azygous 1 of them I talked to said nan aforesaid thing, conscionable possibly packaged a small spot differently. They each said South Florida players are different. They each said that it takes a different type of subordinate to spell to Miami. I was talking to 1 of their linebackers and he was talking astir conscionable seeing Jonathan Vilma astatine nan installation and conscionable being capable to matter him and beryllium like, hey, I request thief here.

They each talked astir like, everybody grows up rooting for nan you and you know, they, you know, they were like, I loved nan Sean Taylor and nan Ray Lewis and each these highlights that they had backmost successful nan day. And I get why Michael Irvin freaks retired connected nan sidelines astatine these games. And nan point that I deliberation is absorbing astir this peculiar harvest of Miami kids that are connected this roster correct now, Miami won 11 games this year. There are 11 and two, they went 10 and 2 successful nan regular season. They want to play disconnected game.

They went 10 and 3 past year. The past clip they won 10 games earlier that was erstwhile Mark Richt was coach successful 2017. They won 10 games. The time, nan past clip earlier that was erstwhile Larry Coker was coach and that was 2003. So Craig Krenzel was nan backmost astatine Ohio authorities successful that, like, for illustration that, for illustration that’s

kind of really down Miami has been. And each of these guys were benignant of telling maine like, basically, if we tin get these guys to enactment home, this tin beryllium different, because each of them committed to a programme that was an idea. All of them committed to a programme that wasn’t you spell to Ohio State, you’re gonna win, you’re gonna compete, you’re gonna do this, you’re gonna do that. They each believed successful this benignant of thought of nan you.

Andrew Gillis (25:26.798)

They each believed successful this thought of 1980s, 1990s, early 2000s Miami. And past that conscionable for illustration go, spell look astatine it. It hasn’t been nan case. Larry Coker, evidently that faded existent fast. Randy Shannon didn’t person success. Al aureate didn’t person success. Mark Richt was only location 3 years. He didn’t person success. Manny Diaz, aforesaid thing. Now Mario Cristobal has won 10 games backmost to backmost for nan first clip since 2002, 2003. And you are trading this thought and,

I don’t know, possibly I’m conscionable much fascinated by it than people, but this conception of Miami benignant of building that wall back, benignant of building that not each kid’s gonna leave, but immoderate kids mightiness enactment home, possibly that wouldn’t person a fewer years ago. That to maine is absorbing because Miami is 1 of those schools wherever erstwhile it gets rolling, it tin really get rolling.

And for illustration Stefan said, it’s not a emblematic foible for Ohio state. It’s not a emblematic rival for Ohio state. But I mean, I don’t know, 1 aliases 2 kids starts to say, know, Hey, I’m from Fort Lauderdale. I’m from Miami. went to American heritage. went to Miami central. went to wherever. And past they say, you cognize what? I want to beryllium a portion of the, you not because of Ray Lewis and Santana Moss and Sean Taylor and Kellan Winslow and Ken Dorsey.

I want to spell to nan U because of Ruben Bain and Malachi Tony and Akeem Mezador. Like that’s a different speech to maine and them benignant of reaching that level. I deliberation you’re starting to spot impervious of conception and this is simply a monolithic impervious of conception crippled for Miami.

Stephen Means (27:10.0)

So what if they suffer it?

Andrew Gillis (27:13.154)

I deliberation it depends really they suffer it. Do you get torched? Like is this 45 10?

Stephen Means (27:20.866)

Know what? No, I’m not moreover gonna put a people connected it because for illustration sometimes scores are not ever successful predictive of really things are going I person we were successful location erstwhile Miami was practicing and evidently we were that we weren’t they didn’t person our afloat undivided attraction astatine that constituent truthful I’m not gonna beryllium present and enactment for illustration I evaluated each and each quality being and assemblage type that walked connected nan section that time but sometimes It doesn’t matter I tests to an grade right? I deliberation Mario Cristobal’s programme is astatine a constituent where

The oculus tests tin really beryllium a existent measurement of things. And I was talking to personification astir just, hey, what’d you think? Just seeing them locomotion around. Because we spot Ohio State each day. So we cognize what their beingness freaks look like. We cognize what Sonny Styles and R. Belvries looks like. And we cognize what Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal, for illustration we cognize what their beingness freaks look like. I felt for illustration past twelvemonth erstwhile we saw Oregon, I was like, whoa, OK, Dan Lanning’s sewage immoderate poods. Last year, wasn’t that impressed pinch what I saw from Indiana.

And nan crippled benignant of played retired that way. This year, a small much impressed pinch what I saw from Indiana guys stepping astir pregame and Stefan, you were really connected nan field. So you had an moreover person look than I had to it. But it was like, OK, physically, these dudes look for illustration they’re expected to beryllium retired here. And we saw really nan crippled played out. And it’s not astir who wins aliases who loses. It’s conscionable really nan crippled consciousness benignant of goes.

Stephen Means (28:42.67)

Ruben Bane and Caden McDonald are 2 very awesome shot players, but neither 1 of them is for illustration prototypical NFL size for what their position group is. And it was very like, OK, that’s why you only had 4 sacks up until that crippled against Texas. I mean, it doesn’t mean he’s not a bully shot player. It’s conscionable Gillis. You bring up nan jokes each nan clip astir really sometimes these guys get to nan harvester and they were listed astatine six 4 each nan time. And now each of a abrupt there’s six 1 and each that. deliberation a batch of these dudes, I consciousness for illustration nan harvester is not going to beryllium bully to them.

It doesn’t return distant from really nan crippled plays out, but nan constituent and nan logic I’m saying that is

Stephen Means (29:18.744)

If this crippled plays retired successful a measurement wherever it doesn’t look for illustration Miami belongs. Win aliases lose, particularly lost, because erstwhile is simply a different conversation? If they suffer this crippled and it looked for illustration Miami belonged connected nan section that I deliberation Gillis, you’re right. I deliberation location mightiness beryllium a displacement and nan adjacent clip a Jeremiah Smith pops up, JJ doesn’t travel to Columbus. He stays home. But I deliberation if we get done this crippled and it’s like. All right, Miami is fine, but they don’t look like.

they should beryllium connected nan section yet pinch nan likes of Ohio State and Georgia. And I conjecture we tin still do a set because they still person talent. conscionable they conscionable can’t tally nan football, right? I deliberation that does matter. Like really does it what does this crippled look for illustration from an oculus trial standpoint erstwhile you’re talking astir Miami and whether aliases not we get to nan extremity of nan crippled and if Ohio State wins 24 to 10.

I deliberation location is simply a quality betwixt nan each authorities won 24 to 10 wherever they scored precocious and it felt for illustration it was a spot of a stone conflict for astatine slightest 3 quarters versus Ohio State wherever 24 to 10 and astatine nary constituent that we deliberation that Ohio State was successful threat of losing this football.

Andrew Gillis (30:28.622)

Yeah, it’s absorbing because for illustration we talk astir this connected our recruiting pod, Steven, for illustration Brady Edmonds committed to Ohio State for illustration 2 days aft they mislaid to Michigan. And I deliberation that’s a decent illustration because it’s not 1 crippled needfully that makes you say, hey, spell here, don’t spell here. Like it’s not 1 game.

where it’s like, well, they mislaid nan crippled that I visited. I conjecture I can’t spell there. you know, if you were a, if you were a perpetrate aliases a enlistee that wanted to spell spot Ohio State, Michigan, and you went to nan Ohio State Michigan this crippled this twelvemonth successful Ann Arbor, I don’t deliberation a squad is looking astatine that going, I can’t spell to Michigan. Now they mislaid to Ohio State. Like if you want to spell there, you’ll spell there. But I do deliberation location is a, really adjacent are you type of type of conversation.

Stephen Means (31:25.168)

The checkpoint crippled for... yeah, me.

Andrew Gillis (31:25.816)

because guys want to win. like, deliberation Ohio State had a beautiful bully recruiting class, but I don’t know. was talking to for illustration 2 recruiting writers, 1 for Ohio State and 1 for Notre Dame. And I was benignant of like, we were talking astir nan 25 rhythm ending and we pointed to Notre Dame. Dame did not triumph nan nationalist title past twelvemonth and Notre Dame had their champion recruiting class, for illustration of nan net era.

You know, for illustration that, that matters to group that, Hey, look, they conscionable played a nationalist title game, right? You know, spell like, cognize Washington’s a small different. Michigan’s a small different because they had, you know, coaching changes aft that and everything that benignant of happened. But if you tin prolong winning, group will look astatine you successful a different way. You know, group get, for illustration I said, group talk astir nan you arsenic this metaphorical idea, this, this thought of a, of a clip gone by, but you hit Ohio state. It’s not.

Oh, nan you tin beryllium back. It’s Ken Miami triumph a nationalist title again. And past that is simply a wholly different picture. And I think, you know, you decidedly person to support still trading that thought of we’re getting there. We’re getting there. We’re getting there. If you’re crystal shot and you suffer 38 to 10, moreover if you suffer for illustration 28 to 20 aliases 17 to 10, something, if it’s adjacent and you’re hanging around, say, Kyle, we’re conscionable a subordinate aliases 2 away. That’s overmuch much marketable.

then hey, you person to judge what I’m saying alternatively than fto maine show you a 3 hr portion that tin show you that we’re almost there.

Stephen Means (33:01.562)

It’s a checkpoint game.

Check 1 time and. Like I don’t know. Also, I deliberation we’re besides conscionable getting a small excessively acold retired location pinch nan Lego. What if JJ had chosen otherwise guys? He won a nationalist title past twelvemonth and he’s nan champion subordinate successful assemblage football.

Win aliases suffer connected Saturday, there’s nary for illustration OJJ made nan incorrect decision. He has a ringing and he’s going to beryllium nan champion subordinate successful assemblage shot 2 years successful a row.

Like I conscionable don’t deliberation location if Miami someway pulls this off, I do not deliberation nan communicative should be. JJ made nan incorrect choice. Especially since it’s not for illustration Ohio State is going to autumn disconnected a cliff adjacent year. Win aliases suffer this game, Ohio State is going to beryllium 1 of nan teams that is successful nan hunt to triumph a nationalist title adjacent year, and he’s nan champion subordinate successful assemblage shot and he’s already won a nationalist title.

We gotta fto it go. get it was a nosy recruiting communicative and it’s going to beryllium a nosy communicative this week, but it’s for illustration it does benignant of look for illustration each clip there’s a chance to go. Hey, what if Jeremiah Smith was a Miami hurricane? We person to person that speech and we don’t person to person it.

Stephen Means (34:11.472)

He’s wherever he’s expected to be, conscionable for illustration Mark Fletcher and Justin Scott and Malachi Tony and Jordan Lyle and everybody other who has for illustration been a conflict betwixt Ohio State Miami to get they are each wherever they’re expected to be. And they’re each good wherever they’re expected to be.

Do you deliberation if JJ was connected Miami that you’d deliberation Miami would triumph this game, Stefan?

Stefan Krajisnik (34:36.299)

I they person a amended chance. Because I’d beryllium looking astatine this defense, beryllium like, that’s a really bully defense, but they still person to slow down Jeremiah Smith.

Stephen Means (34:39.067)

Would you pick?

Stephen Means (34:43.78)

Yeah. Well, would you prime them?

Stefan Krajisnik (34:51.539)

I don’t know, astir apt not, but besides possibly Miami lands a amended backmost successful nan portal if they person Jeremiah Smith. There’s a domino effect here, obviously.

Stephen Means (35:04.156)

Maybe but besides for illustration car. I don’t know. Well Carson Beck was 1 of nan amended quarterbacks successful nan portal That’s truthful nan different rumor present is for illustration I don’t cognize Gailis would you beryllium picking? There are Miami to triumph if everything is nan same. It’s conscionable Jeremiah Smith is playing for Miami

Andrew Gillis (35:23.758)

think it’s crazy to astir apt Ohio State, but it’s for illustration by a section goal, because Miami would person nan amended receiving halfway because what is Ohio State’s receiving halfway astatine that point? Carnell Tate.

Stephen Means (35:38.138)

I mean that’s no... Ain’t breaded it is.

Andrew Gillis (35:41.632)

And yeah, Carnell Tate, Brendan Innis and Mylon Graham. Like is David Adolf getting getting reps for illustration what for illustration what for illustration we haven’t seen a ton of what you know, nan 3rd and 4th receivers are going to beryllium and that’s been a talking constituent for america benignant of each year. So it’s like, I don’t know. It’s it’s conscionable I deliberation that’s a it’s a nosy speech for Ohio State fans to conscionable benignant of for illustration look astatine and beryllium like.

Stephen Means (35:44.229)

and Max Claire.

Stephen Means (35:49.39)

and MaxClar

Stephen Means (35:59.346)

Yeah.

Andrew Gillis (36:06.87)

Wow, look astatine really overmuch this feline tin swing. Like Ohio State’s 9 and a half constituent favorites complete Miami correct now. And we’re talking astir 1 feline wholly flipping that. And I don’t cognize if I would, but it’s, he’s good. And he has nan expertise to do that.

Stephen Means (36:21.018)

Well, what makes it difficult is Quincy Porter has been dealing pinch an wounded each year, truthful we person nary thought what he is. And if he had been healthy, possibly this would beryllium an absorbing conversation, because it’s for illustration a 5 prima enlistee astatine nan extremity of his freshman year’s complaint of pop, for illustration that’s not that unheard of. But also.

Stefan Krajisnik (36:39.443)

If Jeremiah Smith was connected nan different side, we’d beryllium penning a batch astir Brandon Innis, really he’s facing Miami this week.

Stephen Means (36:45.212)

Why we would, because they astir apt would beryllium utilizing Brandon is more. That’s nan point is JJ and Carnell person taken up truthful overmuch of nan intelligence capacity successful nan passing crippled that I deliberation it has made america each nether admit Brandon america a small bit. And that’s not saying that he’s arsenic bully arsenic those guys because he’s not arsenic bully arsenic those guys. But it’s conscionable it does benignant of consciousness for illustration it’s 2 group surviving connected for illustration nan apical of nan mountain. And past there’s for illustration a fewer steps beneath wherever everybody other gets to unrecorded because of that. And immoderate of that is because they person a young starting quarterback.

Right. So I don’t know. Maybe this discourtesy earlier a small spot differently. I would not beryllium speaking Miami to hit Ohio State 1 because I deliberation my Ohio State still has nan amended quarterback. It would springiness Miami 1 much absorbing weapon, though. Unfortunately, it’s a limb that they person to propulsion nan shot to get to get it to. And Carson Beck has not proven to beryllium a downfield passer. That’s anybody of a threat. But I conjecture I conjecture we’ll see. That’s each I got. Those are my rants. No much yelling. I’m going to return a break and past we’re going to make our existent scores present connected Buckeye Talk.

Stephen Means (00:03.067)

It’s Cotton Bowl information three, 3rd consecutive year. Ohio State is playing successful nan fabric bowl. played Missouri successful 2023. They played Texas 11 months agone and now they’re playing Miami and their last crippled of nan 2025 almanac year. The victor moves connected to nan fiesta shot to play Georgia aliases Ole Miss successful nan semifinal of nan 2025 assemblage shot playoff. Ohio State is simply a 9 and a half constituent favourite pinch a 40 and a half.

Over nether I americium Stephen Means and that’s Stefan Kreistink and that is Andrew Gillis and these are our last crippled picks of nan year. Andrew, what’s your score?

Andrew Gillis (00:40.044)

Yeah, I sewage a acquainted refrain fellas. Stop maine if you’ve heard this one. Ohio State covers and it’s under. Ohio State 24 Miami 10. I deliberation this is simply a crippled wherever I’m willing to spot nan first mates of minutes. I deliberation location was much mitigating factors that spell into conscionable nan bargain was a disadvantage. However, I americium funny if location is thing to this thought of

Miami has a batch of momentum. They conscionable won a monolithic game. Their first monolithic triumph for illustration that successful rather immoderate time. You person that win. You’re sailing high. Ohio State, yeah, they’re angry. Yeah, they’re mad, but they are besides coming disconnected a loss. are, you know, dealing pinch a full bunch of worldly successful position of heartline and, and, you know, alteration a correct defender and nan crippled scheme displacement and possibly a philosophical displacement of what changes betwixt Dan Hartley. There’s a mates different things going connected and it’s like,

I just, wonderment if Miami comes out. They’re not acrophobic of Ohio state. They’re emotion confident. They conscionable want a crippled connected nan road. Like, I deliberation they mightiness bent astir and I deliberation they mightiness push Ohio state. I deliberation they’re going to trial Ohio state, but Ohio authorities is conscionable better. Ohio authorities is conscionable nan amended team. Um, I think, you know, location there’s going to beryllium immoderate moments wherever we watch this hap successful authorities assemblage successful happy Valley successful 2024 where

Abdul Carter had 2 sacks and we conscionable benignant of for illustration looked astatine each other. We’re like, bully subordinate make bully play. Like Miami’s sewage immoderate bully players and bully players are going to make bully plays. There’s astir apt going to beryllium a mates of moments wherever Ruben Bain aliases Akeem Mezador aliases Malachi Tony aliases Mark Fletcher does thing and Ohio State fans are going, that’s crazy. Why did we not wrap up there? And why did we not artifact him? Why did we not do this? I don’t know. Miami’s good, but I opportunity it’s better. I opportunity it’s much talented. They’re deeper.

I deliberation they are going to person a crippled scheme that Miami conscionable isn’t going to beryllium capable to support up pinch specifically offensively. I mean, nan word boa constrictor has benignant of been utilized pinch Ohio State this twelvemonth successful their defense. deliberation Carson Beck is conscionable going to get suffocated by that defense. So possibly Miami runs nan ball. Okay. I don’t deliberation they’re going to walk nan shot very well. You know, possibly Ohio State’s offense, you know, possibly they get slowed down. Maybe they person a mates of antagonistic plays because of that really bully Miami protect line.

Andrew Gillis (02:58.04)

don’t deliberation it’s gonna beryllium capable because I don’t deliberation Miami is gonna bent successful nan secondary for a afloat 60 minutes. So Ohio State wins this game, they cover. I deliberation it’s a debased scoring crippled wherever you’re very, very impressed by this defense. But Miami I deliberation does push them. Miami does situation them. They springiness them thing wherever it’s, you tin time off this crippled reasoning Ohio State sewage a really bully trial from Miami and you’re emotion okay astir it. So I don’t deliberation we are successful shop and possibly I’m wrong. I did prime Oregon past twelvemonth successful nan Rose Bowl to hit Ohio State. I was dormant wrong.

I don’t deliberation we are successful shop for a 34 to thing successful nan mediate of nan 2nd 4th type of crippled again from Ohio State, but I deliberation they do win. I deliberation they do cover. deliberation they spell under. It’s a acquainted refrain for illustration we’ve seen each twelvemonth and I deliberation they move connected to nan fiesta.

Stephen Means (03:43.601)

Yeah, truthful a batch of nan players during nan media time connected Monday were getting asked like, is this Miami squad possibly akin to immoderate different teams you’ve seen successful position of makeup? And a batch of nan players were saying Indiana. And a batch of nan logic why Ohio State couldn’t people against Indiana is because they couldn’t decorativeness successful nan reddish zone. And possibly immoderate of that was nan immoderate of nan unit groupings they went with.

In nan reddish zone. now that you person Jeremiah Smith and carnal return wholly healthy. Maybe you don’t request to spell to immoderate of those dense tight insets. And truthful that mightiness lick your reddish area rumor correct there. Mix pinch Bo Jackson, conscionable getting immoderate clip disconnected here. Yeah. I retrieve he sewage nan shot 20 positive times backmost to backmost weeks.

as a existent freshman and he astir apt conscionable needed a small spot of clip off. deliberation Ohio State getting patient astir apt helps this offense. I deliberation astatine immoderate constituent they’re going to break done and commencement scoring connected this Miami defense. And that’s pinch each owed respect, this Miami defense. No, they mightiness not beryllium up 24 to thing astatine nan extremity of nan first quarter. But I do deliberation complete clip they will commencement to rack up points. Maybe you get 7 here, you get 7 there, you people 10 here, you get another.

10 present aliases thing for illustration that. And that’s really I’ll opportunity ends up pulling distant pinch a win. Meanwhile, Ohio State has an historically bully defense and I don’t judge Miami tin score. They struggled to people connected Texas and you gotta retrieve they won that crippled connected a past infinitesimal crippled winning touchdown and a crippled that was for illustration 10 to three. Like it’s not for illustration they won that crippled 35 to 28. This their their discourtesy is not bully arsenic a 2 man band. It’s Mark Fletcher who was a heck of a moving back.

And Malachi Tony, who was a heck of a limb arsenic a gadget guy, you tin usage him arsenic a receiver. You tin usage him arsenic a tally game. You tin make him nan passer. You tin usage him arsenic a return specialist. Those 2 are typical and they sewage immoderate bully guys connected this violative line, but it is difficult to move nan shot successful Ohio State’s defense and moreover harder to get to nan extremity area aliases really states defense. And arsenic a result, my people is 27 to six. Do I deliberation this crippled is going to beryllium played successful a 21 constituent bubble nan full game? No. In fact, we mightiness get nan halftime and it’s.

Stephen Means (05:39.069)

10 to three. But I conscionable deliberation this crippled will play retired for illustration immoderate different games person played retired for Ohio State. Maybe nan crippled against Illinois benignant of played retired for illustration this. The Washington crippled benignant of played retired for illustration this wherever it was conscionable nan corporate of nan afloat 60 infinitesimal game. You blinked and you were for illustration man Ohio State won this crippled by 3 scores and it didn’t consciousness for illustration they were beating this squad by 3 scores for 60 minutes because they astir apt won’t.

Miami is bully capable to beryllium competitory pinch Ohio State for astatine slightest 3 quarters, but astatine immoderate point, Ohio State is going to show that they tin people connected Miami. Miami has not proven this twelvemonth that they tin people connected a squad pinch nan likes of what Ohio State has defensively. So operation that pinch a patient offense. Jeremiah Smith makes a mates of plays here. Cardinal Tate makes a mates of plays there, sprinkling a small spot of Max Clara, sprinkling a small spot of Bo Jackson and Brandon Innes each of a sudden, you get a 27 to six people for Ohio State, which

As Andrew said, that’s a cover, but it isn’t nether because that has been Ohio State’s breadstuff and food for 13 weeks. Stefan pinch your crippled score.

Stefan Krajisnik (06:40.828)

Actually nan aforesaid nonstop people arsenic you Stephen. I deliberation it’s gonna beryllium 27 to 6. I deliberation what’s absorbing is Gillis you alluded to it location there’s for illustration The past 2 years been 2 ways to get to an Ohio State screen successful nan postseason It’s possibly not moreover conscionable postseason but conscionable 2 ways for our seats sum conscionable hit nan brakes disconnected of you aliases it’s nan Washington crippled wherever they conscionable for illustration support you successful a choke clasp for 60 minutes you’re like

How do we get blown retired successful that game? feels for illustration it was a 1 possession crippled nan full clip and now we mislaid by 18 aliases immoderate it is. So I’m going pinch nan aforesaid last people there. just, I just, I conscionable don’t spot it for Miami’s discourtesy against this Ohio authorities defense. I just, I struggle to spot them move nan ball. Your Indiana comparison is akin because nan measurement I spot this crippled going is benignant of akin to nan large 10 title game. Just springiness maine Ohio authorities converting successful situations that wherever they didn’t person against Indiana, right? That Indiana game, if you,

Andrew Gillis (07:10.936)

Yeah.

Stephen Means (07:31.323)

Mm-hmm.

Stefan Krajisnik (07:34.973)

flip a fewer of those reddish red area drives for, for Ohio state. deliberation Ryan Day had said for illustration games a batch different if it’s 24 13, right. Instead of 13 to 10. So I’m trusting Ohio authorities to flip its reddish area success, which is scary to do because astir of this play tells you, astir apt shouldn’t spot that. But pinch this, this clip disconnected and, nan alteration successful nan play calling and carnaltane and Jeremiah Smith backmost to a 100 percent, I’m just, I’m opting into trusting Ohio state, uh, flipping this reddish area luck.

converting successful situations that didn’t person against Indiana and taking retired a fabric shot triumph by people of 27 to six. So Ohio State to screen and nan under. I’ve been riding it each twelvemonth and Gillis joked astir it. I’m existent astir it. I’ve been riding Ohio State screen and nan under. I’m trusting it here. Give maine nan Buckeyes.

Andrew Gillis (08:22.83)

So we’re each picking Ohio State to screen successful a mode that is akin to for illustration a crock pot, right? Like it’s going to beryllium a crock potting of conscionable Ohio State possibly controls nan game, but it’s not a backdoor cover. I deliberation we’re each benignant of connected nan aforesaid page there, right?

Stephen Means (08:41.818)

I deliberation we should bring backmost nan erstwhile timepiece rules.

I don’t for illustration this. Bring backmost nan days of nan 40 touchdown regular seasons for passing touchdowns. Teams conscionable want to clasp nan shot now. Time of possession. Be late. Bring backmost nan bully aged days wherever they were scoring 45 to 31 games. This isn’t nan NFL.

I for illustration seeing points 61435 03315 2 week free proceedings 399 aft that that’ll do it. Those are our crippled scores. I do person our existent records though. I do want to publication these disconnected though because for nan regular play we were not that bad. Actually here’s here’s our records heading into nan assemblage shot playoff. Stefan and I are some 12 and 1 our first losses came successful nan unfortunate title game. Andrew you are 11 and two.

because you decided to prime Texas successful week one. I americium 11 and 2 against nan spread. Stefan, you are 10 and three. Andrew, are 8 and five. Against nan complete under, I americium six and seven. Andrew, you are 7 and six. And Stefan, you are 8 and five. And we started a twelvemonth retired pinch 100 Buckeye Talk tokens. All of america person 1 money truthful we can, bully occupation guys.

a small spot money. Some of america much than others. I’m up to 223. Stefan, you’re astatine 162. And Andrew, you are astatine 104. So beryllium wise arsenic you put your money retired location for what mightiness beryllium nan past 3 games of nan season. But that starts connected Wednesday.

Stephen Means (10:21.294)

at 730 PM Eastern Time, 614-350-3315. Two-week free trial, 399 aft that, Ohio State, Miami successful nan Cotton Bowl pinch a travel to nan Fiesta Bowl connected nan line. For Stefan Kreistick and Andrew Gillis, I’m Stephen Means. See you guys aft again.

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