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COLUMBUS, Ohio -- On this section of Buckeye Talk, Stephen Means, Stefan Krajisnik and Andrew Gillis measure Ohio State’s moving backmost and linebacker position groups.
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Stephen Means (00:02.67)
Welcome backmost to Two Big Things, a conception connected our YouTube transmission present astatine Buckeye Talk. I’m Stephen Means and that’s Stefan Kreisig. During nan season, this often evolves into a, what are we reasoning this week? What do we want to inquire Ryan Day about? Well, nan play is over, truthful it’s not going to conscionable be, hey, each Tuesday we’re going to get Ryan Day. That’s conscionable not really it useful anymore. But we do still want to support this going because assemblage shot is 24-7, 365 days. Even if immoderate of those things hap connected apical of different things, because we person nary consciousness of anything.
in assemblage football. The transportation portal opened connected January 2nd and will proceed to beryllium unfastened until January 16th. Ohio State has already mislaid a fistful of players. They’ve besides already added a subordinate successful Ohio tight extremity Mason Williams, who is essentially, we don’t person to person a large speech astir that. That’s he’s, he’s Will Casmeric again, seriously. If you spell look astatine what Will Casmeric’s numbers were erstwhile he was astatine Ohio arsenic a tight end, they’re very akin to what Williams’s numbers were astatine Ohio. And he’s nan feline who tin beryllium a great
inline blocking tight end, it tin besides beryllium a spot of a receiving threat. And erstwhile you’re losing that astatine Ohio state, you request that astatine Ohio state. And they conscionable hap to person it down nan roadworthy successful Athens. Once again, arsenic we do each azygous week, it’s 2 large things, but it’s going to beryllium much for illustration 4 because we’re throwing them into 2 different categories. Stefan. The first point is of nan guys, Ohio state’s mislaid truthful far. Is location a feline that possibly has nan biggest effect successful position of man, Ohio state’s really going to miss that feline successful 2026.
Stefan Krajisnik (01:26.394)
Yeah, I deliberation if you were to opportunity for illustration position group, I deliberation it’s decidedly area and you tin benignant of possibly prime which which which feline you want to return there. I thin toward Bryce West being nan biggest departure truthful acold conscionable because to maine he’s a feline who astatine slightest had a existent opportunity to commencement for this squad correct arsenic you benignant of you cognize you move connected from Lorenzo styles inferior and now you person Davis and Ibn Osin departing arsenic good for illustration having somewhat of an reply aliases astatine slightest a reliable.
Stephen Means (01:31.054)
He
Stefan Krajisnik (01:54.438)
you know, action that, astatine slightest personification you consciousness is simply a reliable option. And nickel with, pinch Bryce West would person fixed you a small bit, you know, a logic to possibly exhale conscionable a small spot and say, okay, we cognize we got, you know, well, I conjecture we don’t know, but we person a, a emotion that they’re going to get your main Matthews back. You saw Devin Sanchez, nan measurement he played arsenic a freshman and nan measurement he roseate up that extent floor plan and ended up having to commencement against Illinois. And, know, he’s a feline who you benignant of spot being your different starting corner.
If you could conscionable person 1 feline location to astatine slightest thin connected and I’m not saying that if Bryce West was still connected nan roster that they wouldn’t prosecute different options, right? We’ve seen astatine Ohio State that if there’s a awesome action disposable successful nan portal portal, they’re going to spell aft it moreover if they consciousness for illustration they person a returning feline that could possibly commencement astatine that spot arsenic well. Like they’re not acrophobic to find personification you cognize bigger and better. If you had Bryce West though, I deliberation location would beryllium little of an urgency to consciousness for illustration you person to constitute you spell from. Hey, if there’s a awesome option, spell get him. I’ll erstwhile you cognize you had.
Trayvon Henderson is like, but John Jenkins is retired there, right? Whereas now you’re looking astatine it saying, we amended spell get personification successful that area room. Obviously Aaron Scott leaving adds to that. So Bryce West for maine is nan biggest 1 because I conscionable circled him, say, and if you had him coming back, possibly he’s not your judge occurrence starting nickel, but it’s astatine slightest benignant of this crushed furniture instauration of if there’s not a amended action successful nan portal, you consciousness okay about
Stephen Means (03:18.198)
Yeah, I’m going to spell pinch Milan Graham and utilizing him arsenic nan look of Ohio State successful this portal cycle, possibly much than immoderate different portal rhythm is emotion pinch different programs person been emotion for years. you can, I mean, you tin astir apt propulsion Bryce West into this conversation. could propulsion James Peebles into this conversation. You tin propulsion Aaron Scott into this conversation. But if this were 5 years ago, James Peeples would, I don’t deliberation he would beryllium successful nan portal.
because that’s right, is your Ohio State, this is your Georgia, if you’re Texas, if you’re Alabama, you’re 1 of those schools wherever it’s like, your extent would beryllium starters crossed nan country. How galore years person we gone done a spot and it’s like, oh, Mylon Graham is Ohio State’s 5th champion receivers. And if you put him connected immoderate different Big 10 team, he’s astir apt a starter and astatine worst nan number 2 receiver. I don’t cognize if that’s going to beryllium existent anymore going guardant into nan early simply because of really roster building is. If this were.
12 months agone and we still had 2 portal windows. Maybe Mylon Graham sticks astir done nan outpouring and tries to conflict for a job. I talked pinch him earlier nan fabric bone. He said he already viewed himself arsenic a startup for 2026. I didn’t deliberation it didn’t mean astatine Ohio State, but present we are. He’s successful nan portal. But does he instrumentality astir and effort to conflict Quincy Porter, effort to conflict Chris Henry Jr. to beryllium nan starting receiver other of Jeremiah Smith connected nan outside? Maybe. But erstwhile you only sewage 1 portal window, you can’t do that anymore. You can’t instrumentality astir and.
take nan chance of being incorrect and now you’re stuck retired of spot for different twelvemonth watching from nan sidelines. And I deliberation that effect successful position of nan 2026 wide receiver room arsenic Cortez Hankton takes complete that room, that mightiness not beryllium that impactful if you still consciousness for illustration betwixt Jeremiah Smith, Quincy Porter and Chris Henry Jr. you sewage value connected nan extracurricular and possibly it’s nan only wrong that slot pinch Brandon Innis wherever possibly you request to research different options alongside of Brandon Innis.
But I do deliberation from a standpoint of nan large image of Ohio State’s receiver room has often been six heavy pinch group who were large 10 caliber starters. deliberation losing a feline for illustration Mylon Graham successful nan portal is simply a motion that possibly that’s not going to beryllium nan lawsuit anymore. And I don’t cognize if that’s conscionable simply because Heartline is leaving. I deliberation that’s conscionable nan show of wherever we are astatine successful nan athletics wherever nan teams astatine nan apical can’t hoard talent.
Stephen Means (05:32.802)
the measurement they utilized to beryllium capable to successful this sport. And truthful I do deliberation it’s what brings you backmost to a happy mean wherever now arsenic you’re seeing successful nan assemblage shot playoff, it’s Indiana, it’s Oregon, it’s Ole Miss, and it’s, who’s nan 4th team? Miami, for illustration correct there, who would person thought that 3 years agone that that would beryllium a last 4 successful nan assemblage shot playoff. But that’s what happens erstwhile this talent gets a small spot much dispersed retired and places astatine Ohio State wherever you’re utilized to having 2 and 3 heavy worthy of starting level guys.
Stefan Krajisnik (05:45.115)
Miami.
Stephen Means (05:59.266)
Well, those 2 and threes are now ones and twos astatine different programs. I deliberation that’s what you’re seeing pinch guys for illustration Miley Graham and Bryce West and Bryce West and each down nan database there.
Stefan Krajisnik (06:07.868)
Yeah, I mean, because because you look at, you know, caller years and immoderate of nan astir ascendant and deepest position groups successful nan country. It’s for illustration erstwhile Georgia was successful its heyday, that protect beforehand was loaded wherever it was 5 prima aft 5 star. And we’ve started to spot that dwindle spot wherever Kirby Smart is talking astir really he doesn’t person nan extent that he utilized to person because of nan portal and immoderate of worldly for illustration that. Ohio State’s wide receiver room, frankly, you know, pinch aliases without Brian Hartline, right? And obviously, Brian Hartline leaving possibly expedite expedites that, but for illustration they’re not needfully immune to that, right? They’re not immune.
to nan realities of assemblage shot astatine times. And Milo Graham successful that receivers room is possibly a spot of an illustration of that, wherever you suffer a talented feline successful erstwhile years, possibly you wouldn’t.
Stephen Means (06:49.719)
So that’s nan guys who are leaving aliases really it is besides hosting a plethora of different players each azygous time done nan portal. As we mentioned before, Mason Williams was nan first to commit. They besides landed a agelong snapper successful nan portal. But like, what do you want to see? Is location a position group you want to spot astatine somebody? And if you want to put a sanction connected it, you can.
Stefan Krajisnik (07:07.632)
Yeah, I’m willing to spot what Ohio State does up beforehand successful position of its protect statement and that possibly linebackers benignant of lumped into this depending on, you know, really you want to database Chas Coleman and what position he precisely is. He’s evidently benignant of nan biggest sanction correct now. He posted a image pinch Lane Kiffin. So, you know, we cognize that he was down astatine LSU. I’m beautiful judge immoderate folks person reported that Tennessee is benignant of mixed pinch him. Obviously that’s intriguing because he conscionable played for Jim Knowles.
at Penn State, Jim Knowles now astatine Tennessee. Is that a schoolhouse that possibly gets into nan mix? It’s beautiful clear that nan the Buckeyes aren’t going to get immoderate benignant of for illustration hometown discount for Chas Coleman, right? He’s an Ohio kid and and possibly there’s immoderate some entreaty there. And arsenic soon arsenic his sanction was successful nan portal, everyone benignant of circled Ohio State and said, hey, this is simply a schoolhouse that’s going to beryllium successful nan mix, but it’s going to beryllium an costly one, right? That Ohio State’s going to to prosecute successful nan portal. But I deliberation you spot him and I think.
He had highs and lows this season. And I deliberation because of nan highs, everyone benignant of jumped to crown him. I do deliberation there’s an constituent of his crippled that for illustration still needs to beryllium developed. There’s a level of consistency that still needs to beryllium developed, but astatine his peak, I deliberation you constituent to it you opportunity like, Hey, you retrieve what our Val Reese did? Ohio state. Maybe he’s a feline who tin do immoderate of that worldly arsenic for illustration an separator slash linebacker. So we’ll spot benignant of nan measurement his, you know, I conjecture it’s recruitment again, right? Because you get recruited a cardinal times now astatine collegiate level. How is recruitment?
pans out, but I deliberation different absorbing sanction benignant of upfront and this is wherever possibly wherever you know, Katie McDonald is an absorbing guy. What determination does he make? And possibly by nan clip you’re listening to this video, he’s made a decision. But we cognize that that UCF protect tech tackle Horace Lockett is astatine slightest readying to sojourn Ohio State aliases has visited Ohio State. He’s benignant of a sanction that’s an intriguing one. I deliberation he’s for illustration he’s he’s a beautiful large dude. Like he’s a he’s a unit location successful nan middle, right? So that’s different sanction wherever I look astatine this protect beforehand and it’s like
Stephen Means (08:47.724)
Mm-hmm.
Stefan Krajisnik (09:01.884)
Chas Coleman is simply a large sanction that they’re going after, but past you you’ve sewage guys who are making decisions astatine protect end, benignant of for illustration Kenyatta Jackson still sewage a determination make. And moreover connected nan interior, you’ve sewage a feline successful Kaden McDonald who’s still making nan decision. Is nan portal location wherever you person to thin connected if he departs if he comes backmost that you don’t person to interest astir nan portal. The protect beforehand is conscionable an absorbing point because guys are making decisions beautiful speedy and schools are signing guys beautiful quick.
But Ohio State, immoderate of their decisions mightiness trust connected what guys for illustration Kenyatta and Kaden do and erstwhile their decisions travel along. Like it’s each conscionable a fascinating timeline and there’s immoderate large names that are disposable retired location successful position of nan protect front. And it’s benignant of absorbing to spot now what precisely Ohio State does and doesn’t request there.
Stephen Means (09:43.118)
Yeah, I’m going to spell backmost connected nan violative broadside of things. I don’t deliberation Ohio State had capable players connected its roster this twelvemonth wherever you put nan shot successful their hands and they tin make a play. And I deliberation that explosive constituent was missing from Ohio State. I deliberation from a downfield passing standpoint pinch Jeremiah Smith and Cardinal Tate, they were great. I thought Max Clair downfield was beautiful bully arsenic good erstwhile he sewage nan shot successful those opportunities. And listen, immoderate of this was because Jeremiah Smith was dealing pinch an wounded successful nan full backmost half of nan regular season. So possibly it.
Stefan Krajisnik (09:53.349)
Mm-hmm.
Stephen Means (10:11.479)
hurt his explosiveness a small bit, but that was missing. erstwhile you’re utilized to KJ Hill, erstwhile you’re to Paris Campbell, erstwhile you’re utilized to Jackson Smith, nan Jibba, Garrett Wilson played successful nan slot for a year, Ameka, Buka, guys wherever they were awesome downfield walk catchers, but besides erstwhile you put nan shot successful their hands and you inquire them, hey, we gave you a 7 gait completion, tin you move it into a 20 gait gain? I thought that was missing from Ohio State this year. I thought Brandon Innis brought a batch of bully things, but that was not 1 of nan things he brought.
And it’s, think, portion of nan logic why they were taking them disconnected nan section arsenic overmuch arsenic they were taking them disconnected nan field. And I deliberation you request that. You request guys who tin move easy completions into explosive plays. And truthful if I had to put a sanction connected it, Texas is DeAndre Moore Jr. The past 2 years, had 77 catches for 988 yards and 11 touchdowns. 401 of those 988 yards came aft nan catch. that’s a small complete 40 % of his accumulation came aft he already had nan shot successful his hands. I deliberation Ohio State needs that.
in nan slot. And it’s, deliberation Brandon has provided immoderate worth and I deliberation he’ll proceed to supply immoderate worth successful 2026. But successful 2018, they paired KJ Hill, who was a reliable walk catcher pinch Paris Campbell, who was explosive pinch nan shot successful his hands. And I deliberation they request that successful 2026 alongside what if you paired him, right? What if you had 2 guys sharing that slot position and nan different feline was a feline wherever it’s like, Hey,
I gave you a bubble screening, you turned it into a 15 gait again. Hey, I gave you a elemental 7 gait slant and you conscionable went 25 yards pinch it, but they person to get much explosive pinch their discourtesy successful position of who has nan shot successful their hands because location were not capable times wherever they were turning easy completions into thing explosive. And I deliberation it wounded nan discourtesy because if you’re not capable to decorativeness disconnected agelong drives successful nan reddish zone, past you amended beryllium capable to beryllium explosive and get touchdowns. And it can’t conscionable be
long processing heavy shots down nan field. It’s sewage to beryllium immoderate elemental worldly too. And I deliberation a feline for illustration Deandre Moore who did sojourn complete nan play and past different receivers who will beryllium visiting, whoever it is, he’s sewage to fresh that explanation of a feline who, okay, what does he do aft he has nan shot successful his hands? Because I deliberation connected nan extracurricular betwixt Jeremiah Smith, Quincy Porter and Chris Henry Jr. and moreover Brandon Ennis who made immoderate large clip catches this year, I deliberation you’re covered from a possession receiver standpoint. You request immoderate playmakers successful nan backmost and connected nan perimeter arsenic well.
Stefan Krajisnik (12:22.898)
No.
Stefan Krajisnik (12:35.43)
Yeah, I deliberation what’s nosy present is, you know, I talked a spot astir corner. talked astir defensive, protect front, you know, whether you’re talking astir nan secondary protect front, we’ve seen Ohio authorities trust connected nan portal, spell and get Caleb downs, getting guy, you know, they sewage Boatkinson past year, right? Like that’s, know, Davis and Ibnosa was a transfer. Like they’re not immune to getting transfers and losing transfers to immoderate of these positions. There is simply a caller constituent present of like, we person not seen Ohio authorities trust connected nan transportation portal for receiver, right? Whether it’s.
They haven’t, they haven’t mislaid a ton of talented receivers to nan transportation portal. They haven’t added talented receivers from nan transportation portal. And that’s benignant of a caller constituent to this wherever it’s like, we’re hopping connected here. We’re talking astir Mylon Graham leaving and we’re talking about, you know, guys for illustration Deandre Moore visiting. It’s, it’s, it’s interesting. And it’s a caller constituent to benignant of this transportation portal world for Ohio state. And I’m not saying 1 measurement is correct aliases wrong. Listen, what they’ve been doing astatine receiver pinch Brian Hartline. Why would you spell get a transportation feline erstwhile twelvemonth aft twelvemonth you’re, you’re having a first information prime measurement successful for a first information pick.
But besides there’s thing incorrect pinch going to get transportation portal receivers, right? Like we’ve seen immoderate of nan champion programs aliases champion teams nan past mates of years do it. mean, Nick Marsh conscionable signed aliases committed to Indiana while they’re successful nan midst of competing for nationalist championship, right? Like we’ve seen programs lead connected nan portal for receiver arsenic well. And yet it comes down to evaluation, whether it’s precocious schoolhouse information and what you person connected your roster aliases it’s portal evaluation. that’s conscionable a caller constituent for Ohio authorities that they person to benignant of unrecorded successful now. It’s a caller reality and it’s what...
what assemblage shot is now. No position group is immune to this. Maybe Ohio State was for a fewer years, but astatine immoderate constituent you knew that tally was going to person to travel pinch immoderate tweaks, whether it’s Brian Hardline leaving or, I don’t know. Would you person been shocked if astatine immoderate constituent successful nan Brian Hardline tenure he had to get a portal receiver? I don’t deliberation it would person been shocked.
Stephen Means (14:18.613)
Yeah, no. In fact, I deliberation I asked him astir that earlier nan cottonwood idea. Like, hey, do you return a batch of pridefulness successful nan truth that you’ve ne'er had to usage a transfer? And he said, yeah, but astatine nan aforesaid time, it’s he said, I deliberation that that’s astir apt coming to an extremity present very, very soon is because I mean, listen, Ohio State recruits receiver arsenic bully aliases amended than anybody other successful nan country, but everybody’s not going to hit. And I deliberation correct now they’ve benignant of tally into that business and a batch of guys didn’t hit. And truthful now they’re going to person to offset it a small spot successful nan portal.
Because arsenic you said, this is this is assemblage football, isn’t it? Great. It’s great. It’s great. I really it’s fun. It’s not nosy that each these things are happening astatine nan aforesaid time, but it is nosy that there’s this caller constituent successful assemblage shot that allows you to get talent location different than conscionable precocious school. And it gives everybody an opportunity to find their champion fit. Six 1 4 3 5 3 three 1 five. Two weeks characteristic each 3 ninety nine. Now for that each week, each Tuesday, we travel to you pinch this vid.
Talking stuff, sometimes it’s gonna be, what do we wanna inquire for our day? Sometimes it’s conscionable america talking, talking ball, because that’s what everybody loves. So for Stefan Kreistich, I’m Stephen Means. Talk to you guys later.
